tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post113900851897952497..comments2024-03-27T03:32:53.817-05:00Comments on Euangelion: Wright and Justification (Again)Michael F. Birdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09713482855679578651noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post-1140320039698018012006-02-18T21:33:00.000-06:002006-02-18T21:33:00.000-06:00Michael,I refer to this post by you in my Feb 14 p...Michael,<BR/>I refer to this post by you in my Feb 14 post regarding John MacArthur's harsh words about Tom Wright. <BR/><BR/>http://michaelfbird.blogspot.com/2006/02/wright-and-justification-again.html<BR/><BR/>Well done.Andy Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15317283478472718864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post-1139387693981523462006-02-08T02:34:00.000-06:002006-02-08T02:34:00.000-06:00Vick, you're on the money. I think since about 199...Vick, you're on the money. I think since about 1999 in his articles "Shape of Justification" and the Edinburgh Dogs conference, the Romans commentary, Fresh Perspectives gives a healthier presentation of Wright that is more conducive to Reformed concerns of Wright.Michael F. Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09713482855679578651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post-1139369340776050892006-02-07T21:29:00.000-06:002006-02-07T21:29:00.000-06:00So then I guess his new work titled Paul: In Fresh...So then I guess his new work titled <I>Paul: In Fresh Perspective</I> tends to be a little more balanced with regard to justification?<BR/><BR/>Having heard him speak, and having talked to him, I have heard him say he does not necessarily reject the "reformed issue/teaching of justification." But apparently current day reformers do not agree (especially James White - but consider the source).T.B. Vickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00965990105136999148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post-1139307516739176022006-02-07T04:18:00.000-06:002006-02-07T04:18:00.000-06:00I think in Climax and WSPRS, Wright does gets the ...I think in Climax and WSPRS, Wright does gets the balance wrong. Since about 1999, he's been far more careful in his wording and description of justification.Michael F. Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09713482855679578651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post-1139286831014609222006-02-06T22:33:00.000-06:002006-02-06T22:33:00.000-06:00I never thought Wright did this - ["Covenant membe...I never thought Wright did this - ["Covenant membership, the part that Wright gets the most excited about, is here regarded as a "corollary" of justification] instead of <B>comprising its entire content.</B>" <BR/><BR/>I always thought Wright's critics were off, or either mis-reading Wright in one sense or the other.<BR/><BR/>What work is that quote from, Michael?T.B. Vickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00965990105136999148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post-1139252654546021932006-02-06T13:04:00.000-06:002006-02-06T13:04:00.000-06:00I wonder if some of the complaint against this wil...I wonder if some of the complaint against this will be about how much God has dealt with sin and death 'in advance'. Justification_reformed_model is set up to deal with the guilt that we have under the preaching of the law. Come to Jesus and have your guilt taken away, which it currently is not. He's dealt with sin and death, but Justification_refmod says he hasn't dealt with MY sin until I come to faith.pdughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09832284495239324375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post-1139232448437644262006-02-06T07:27:00.000-06:002006-02-06T07:27:00.000-06:00If that's the case why don't you just read Calvin?...If that's the case why don't you just read Calvin?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post-1139201177250135972006-02-05T22:46:00.000-06:002006-02-05T22:46:00.000-06:00Amen, Mike!Amen, Mike!Sharad Yadavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13840519.post-1139087494795033802006-02-04T15:11:00.000-06:002006-02-04T15:11:00.000-06:00Michael,I believe that your observations about Wri...Michael,<BR/><BR/>I believe that your observations about Wright are correct. Who could really quibble with the statement you cite.<BR/><BR/>(Oh, I realize that there are plenty who could and would quibble.)abcanedayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671418539630398806noreply@blogger.com