A select few Christians will spend forever in a peaceful, joyous place called heaven, while the rest of humanity spends forever in torment and punishment in hell with no chance for anything better. Its clearly communicated to many that this belief is a central truth of the Christian faith and to reject it is in essence to reject Jesus.
The book is an attempt to “reclaim” the correct, true plot of the Jesus story.
Third, nothing in the book has not been taught or believed by many Christians before Rob Bell. The content of the book it is claimed has been taught an “untold number of times”. He contends that the historic, orthodox Christian faith is a “deep, wide, diverse stream that’s been flowing for thousands of years, carrying a staggering variety of voices, perspectives, and experiences”. The book claims to introduce the reader to “the ancient, ongoing discussion surrounding the resurrected Jesus”.
What do we make of these claims three claims?
The first claim represents an issue of colossal importance because if Rob Bell is in fact correct then we indeed need to repent immediately of our misguided and toxic understanding of the Gospel and push restart. We need to reboot our theological hard drives. If we have the Gospel wrong we won’t have much else right. But is Rob right here? Has the Gospel story been hijacked? Does the majority of evangelical Christians in the twenty-first century have the Gospel all wrong? Have most of us totally lost the plot? Have we left behind Jesus’ primary point? Have we somehow misunderstood or twisted the truth of what Jesus came to do? Well, this is a huge question that would require survey of Gospel accounts let alone a wide-ranging study of Gospel presentations today. Neither of which did Love Wins provide. So, it is certainly an overstatement. But it is worth asking don’t you think? It is possible that given our cultural conditioning we have gotten at least parts of the Gospel wrong? Or perhaps we have overly emphasized some aspects and neglected others?
While it is not yet altogether clear what Rob thinks is wrong with the typical evangelical Gospel story we can see glimpses of what he is protesting and what he will consequently develop in the book.
Traditional View |
| Love Wins |
1. A select few will ultimately be saved. |
| 1. Many if not most or all will ultimately be saved. |
2. There’s no second chance after death. |
| 2. There are an innumerable number of chances to be saved in this life and the next. |
3. Heaven is a place somewhere else. |
| 3. Heaven is here not somewhere else. |
4. The central truth of Christianity is about getting out of hell and into heaven. |
| 4. Whatever the central message of Christian faith is, it’s not about getting in and staying out. |
The third claim is perhaps the least able to stand up under the weight of the evidence not in its favor. It is incontrovertible that there has been a wide range of views with the context of what can loosely be labeled Christianity through the two millennia of its existence. However, it is not accurate by any stretch to call orthodox a view that (1) tends toward universalism, (2) presents a “second-chance” theology, and (3) argues that nothing of what is central to the Gospel story is about “getting in”. This view can claim the label orthodoxy about as much as those found among the Gnostic Gospels. Sure there were so-called Christians used these texts and who thought of them as Christian Scripture, but they were on the very fringes of early Christianity representing only a very small minority.
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However, to call a view that ... argues that nothing of what is central to the Gospel story is about “getting in” is not orthodox Christianity by any stretch.
Dismissing a theologian of the calibre of NT Wright (as you just have) as not orthodox is fighting talk.
Christianity has nothing at all to do with getting in - but it has everything to do with remaining in the covenanted relationship that God creates.
You've misunderstood me and misunderstood Wright.
Three thoughts: (1) Jesus talks excessively about entering the Kingdom. Getting in is central for both Jew and Gentile according to Jesus. (2) You are not appropriately applying the New Perspective language of "staying in". This is a statement about 2nd Temple Judaism not Jesus Messianism. (3) I intend to include all three points made there so don't focus just on that one point. The totality of those three are what I am asserting is not orthodox Christianity.
Joel,
Do you really mean to say that the central truth of Christianity is about getting out of hell and into heaven? Or, are you presenting this as Rob's view? If so, I'd have to disagree with you. Can you elaborate?
Chris Skinner
Well we haven't defined heaven yet which is important in such a discussion, but yes I think a central aspect of Jesus teaching was getting into the soon coming kingdom which I equate with heaven.
My initial comment was primarily about alternate views of an afterlife. Rob Bell has never claimed to be a mystic, but is open to contemplative prayer and meditation. While not a Universalist, he does respect people of other religions.
Even within Christianity there are differing views of afterlife between Protestants, Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Mormons, etc. In any discussion between people, there will be varying personal opinions and interpretations of scriptures. Most mystics, of any faith, would agree with Jesus: "The Kingdom of Heaven is within." If you want to find Hell just read, watch or listen to the daily news or study the unkind history of humankind.
Ron,
I don't want to squabble about things that are besides the main point here, but I have a point of loving correction. Jesus did not contend that "The Kingdom of Heaven is within." He said that the Kingdom of Heaven is not something that can be observed, nor can it be said it is "over there" because it is in our midst (see Luke 17.20-21). The Kingdom of God is spiritualized in one sense, but not individualized or personalized per se.
Very good post Joel. Very helpful.
Makes me want to read the book. However, I would rather do so in the company of others because according to another blogger Love Wins raises many questions.
Nice post, very helpful!
Joshua,
You said "The Kingdom of God is spiritualized in one sense, but not individualized or personalized per se." I agree. The divine essence is omnipresent; we might personalize it when conscious of it.
You should know that my confession was not due to the safety of your ear, but your relationship to the author who swayed me toward evangelical universalism. Like him, I consider myself a "hopeful" universalist, unwilling to stake my (or anyone else's) eternity on this.
Regarding that first point (relatively few will be saved), I suspect Bell is alluding to the views of many so-called Calvinists in this regard. But, perhaps I'm wrong.
Thanks for clarifying. And I'm sorry if I completely mischaracterized the nature of the conversation. I do recall, perhaps its just in my own mind, a sense of cautiousness in how widely you wished to disseminate such a view in the context of a church culture such as ours. However, I might have misunderstood completely.
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